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Elektro, Chuck Bass, Hybrid, and I car-pooled it up to Edmonton for a talk by one of the forum members up there. A solid crowd of 15-20 guys were there for an excellent talk, mostly based on Blueprint Decoded mixed with personal experiences of one of the guys who found some great success with it. Great stuff for some introspection into my real reasons for being in PU and were I want to get to.

Following the talk we hit a hotel lounge to watch the game, were we grabbed some food and I had a fucking heart attack with about 6s left. But we got US again Sunday. WOOOOOOO!

On to the more relevant, we cruise over to Whyte and hit Lucky 13 around 10:30. On the way in, I cant remember how but we got to talking about the serene beaches of Edmonton and decided that was our new opener for the night. Wander in and chat with the beer tub girl right away – pushy saleswoman lol. After warming up with her I head for a lap and head straight for the first good looking girl I see –HBGreen. My opener for the night (beaches aside) is “I thought you were adorable and had to meet you”, the three set opens great but I stumble a little on the transition asking “how do you guys know each other” and such without creating any real conversation. Before it starts going downhill I grab some hands and lead them over to hybrid who chats with the other two while I vibe a bit with the target. Friends drag the target off to the dance floor before too long but by now I am feeling in state and know its going to be a fun night. WHY THE FUCK DO I NOT ALWAYS JUMP IN SET RIGHT AWAY? Choding around for the first 15 in the club always kills me, no more of that shit.

Next set. Same opener, 2 set opens well, Chuck Bass joins and takes the obstacle. My target is anxious to go dance so after a minute or two I show her the cyclone and push her off towards the dance floor. Nothing solid, but she was smiling and can always re-open.

Next set. See two girls walk in while I am chatting with Chuck. HBGuess is a solid 8 and I head straight for her. Direct open, not entirely smooth as she looked a little stunned so I chatted with her friend for a bit then with the target. Didn’t last too long, they wanted to find there friends. They wander off, I go back to chatting with Chuck and Elektro, and watch HBGuess run up to HBGreen on the dance floor and give her a big hug.

Next set. Seated three set, I open with “Hey guys, were are all the good beaches in Edmonton?” Chuck is there too and we have some fun with our inside joke. Immediately I pull out my other opener for the night with my target “But seriously, I thought you were adorable and had to come over here and meet you.” Move into some standard stuff, they met at church ha ha, Chuck asks about bars on Whyte and teases them for choosing what they described as a mediocre bar (for those of you hitting Edmonton, Luck 13 is a fantastic little club, this was my second time sarging there and both have been great nights). Chuck sits down and after a little bit I jump in the booth next to my target. Vibe well with her and the group, talking a lot about snowboarding and show some pics from the Alps. Some funny role playing about us opening our own orange grove and her being the new poster girl for Tropicana along with Chris Farley after bringing up the SNL skit were Chris Farley opens girls by asking them to peel his orange (another joke from the ride up, good times). A long set, probably half an hour – Bass bailed (the set was 2 6’s and a good 8 – the 8 was my target), so I number closed the group. Funny bit were the target was telling me she never gives her real number out and one of the friends was encouraging her too. Sweet.

Wow, this is report is getting long fast. Funny set were Chuck says go open this mixed 3 set and I head over. Terrible timing were there backs were slightly turned and when I went and tapped one girl, I saw she was zipping up the front of the other girls dress. Immediately they think I am a fucking creeper watching this and I make a quick exit.

Standing near the dance floor I notice HBGreen and HBGuess along with the other three still working it on the dance floor. Grab HBGreen’s hand and say “I choose you” *credit Elektro there. Grind a bit on the dance floor, pick her up and throw her around a bit because the dancing is pretty terrible. Good fun but I missed some great opportunities to ramp up the sexuality here, as I had the chance to start whispering some sexual comments in her ear but froze up and didn’t pull anything out. Our dancing continues to be shit (lots of grinding but we keep kind of tripping over each other), so I pull her back to the bar. Pull it back and go for some comfort, tease her about being a bikini wrestling champion, ramp up the sexuality again and go for the makeout. She pulls back so continue vibing. She invites me to Iron Horse as her friends tell her they are ready to go, I decline and grab the number and a kiss on the cheek.

We chill for awhile, watch hybrid open some good looking girls. For a guy who is convinced he is terrible and cant stay in a set past the opener he seems to get a lot of smiles and a couple 5 minute sets including one with HBGuess and her friend. Great stuff.

We hit the street for a couple sets. Open three more with beaches and just chill and chat the girls and Chuck while Elektro and hybrid go off on there own adventure. Decent low key sets, I am happy to let Chuck carry the conversations and he keeps things flowing with pictures of his freakishly large poodle ha ha.

At the end of the day I am happy, got in state quickly and kept it flowing all night. Kept things very direct and natural and just had some great conversations. For the future I want to continue like this, get in sets quickly, keep state, and be direct and natural. I also want to do more venues like Lucky, a little closer to a pub, but still a great looking and young crowd. I will try some Ship and Anchor, any other venue suggestions for Calgary? The main point I want to work on from this night is the sexual escalation, I held back with HBGreen.

That’s all for now, love to hear everyone’s thoughts and especially some perspectives from Elektro, Chuck Bass, and Hybrid.

Joe

Just want to echo Jshrks sentiments on the lair meeting, it was really cool to hear Ryan talk about his progression in pickup and taking his game to the next level. Tons of really awesome material that I wish I could have recorded or had transcripts of. As for the night out on Whyte ave it was a ton of fun. I need to focus more on just having a fun night without making it entirely about pickup, but still keep my goals in mind and push myself.

First to talk a bit about my personal lessons from the night:
elektro had set up a small goal for me to get a kiss close tonight and work on my dance game since it was a sticking point for me. I was really pumped by having a couple goals set out for the evening. I know now that this is critically important for me to set goals outside of my comfort zone to progress or I just end up treading water where I am now.

the first set I was in with Jshrk was a big realization for me. OPEN EVERYTHING!

I saw these 5 girls about to take shots at the bar and they were obviously out for a fun night on the town. Mentioned them to Jsrk and we approached. I tried a situational open "looks like the party's over here!" as the shots were being poured immediately asked "what are we celebrating tonight!" they respond screaming "girls night out!" to which I laugh and got random high fives. I need to work on going with a wing since I kind of failed to integrate jhrk into the set but he took the initiative immediately and jumped in with some banter right away. He also did something I thought was hilarious when he saw the one girls camera he told them he was gonna take a group photo and then proceeded to take a snapshot of himself with a big grin on his face. He took the group photo after with me jumping in the middle of the girls with an exagerated smile on my face. Fun times!

They took their shots and we I wasnt blown away with any of them but I always have a tough time telling without actually approaching (another good reason to approach everyone). I talked to one that I personally felt no attraction for at all. she had massive braces which I made certain to never look at during our chat. lots of girls are self conscious about that sort of thing. This taught me something important in that getting in with a targets friends/social circle (green light theory) can almost be more important than building attraction with her directly. I tapped on one girls shoulder in the group who was the wildest and asked if she was the crazy one of the group, we chit chatted for maybe 10 seconds and I wasnt feeling them so I told them to save me a dance for later, smiled high fived and ejected. Jshrk was all the while talking with the two cuties HBGuess and HBGreen during my time with their friends, it was worthwhile set for both of us.

I was standing beside the dancefloor with elektro talking kind of rocking back and forth and 15 minutes after I had a 10 second talk with the crazy girlwho I seeded the dance with came over and said "how about that dance grabbing my hand" I tossed my water on the table and headed to the d-floor. We started grinding pretty much immediately. I thought back to what keving had said about after 9 seconds of grinding you pretty much have permission for a makeout. I spun her around and closed the distance between us getting really close to her face and tried for it but got the semi face turn away cheek kiss snub haha! I danced a bit longer then said, I'll be back in a bit and left. Good learning experience since I actually went for it instead of pussying out like I did on my bootcamp.

A couple other good learnings for me were when I asked Jshrk and Hybrid for advice and they mentioned that I hang on to threads a bit long sometimes and can go a bit overboard with my teasing which I definitely can see now. Also I may convey a bit too much interest too early but this is kind of more like natural game to me so I'm not sure that is necessarily a bad thing, may just not work so well on the really high value girls. Also Elektro told me one thing in the car about validation which was a big aha for me, men get validated through sex and women get validated through attention. This is something to be conscious of during all interactions i think. He also recommended going through lay reports to learn what works and dissect them. All really good advice. Also I know now that writing this down is incredibly important because I am recalling all sorts of salient points from the evening. If anyone has ever studied the learning process in humans, review and reapplication is super important (something to consider when you say to yourself "fuck I dont want to write an FR".

As for the other guys I have a couple things i want to talk about. firstly Hybrid had some really great sets where he stayed in for 5+ minutes in all of them with really attractive women. I dont know what you did man but it was definitely working, in your last set with HBGuess (I know you dont like the HB names haha) HBGreen was kinoing you towards the end which was pretty awesome to see. I also learned a lot from Jshrk since he has kind of progressed out of the social robot routine stage into more direct natural game. I think this is where I want to see my game progress to but like he said it is good to have those routines as a sort of safety net in case you freeze out. He kind of focuses on staying true to himself and coming from a place of integrity, I feel that I can maybe come of as a bit disingenuous with stacking opener after opener. The night was good because I asked genuine questions which I was interested in knowing the answers to like which bars are good in edmonton. this felt more natural than lemons/penguins type opener material even though it is always fun to slip that in from time to time.

Going out with elektro was fuckin awesome, we talked the entire way up and back and he really knows what he's talking about. at the club he was so close to a 30 second kiss close and I learned a lot from that set because I was 12 inches from it when it was happening. specifically he poured on the kino hard and fast. headlocking this girl and putting both arms on her shoulders about 10 seconds in. she was massively interested until he said "alright we're breaking up" jokingly and she insta-bailed. it was pretty funny. for me I make an effort to shoulder touch often but I realize now that it is possible to escalate really quickly instead of taking tons of time at it.

I was really pumped to go out with all the guys and I look forward to more nights out in the future. My advice to others would be, get hooked up with other guys in the community because it keeps you accountable and prevents you from staying out of set for too long. Another thing I am going to try since I sometimes have trouble mellowing out after the club is 10 mins of meditation prior to sleep just to calm the mind and relax. Worth trying for anyone who has the racing thoughts problem when your laying in bed at 4 AM. Alright good luck all and as always PM me or reply if you have any questions comments. Thanks