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[also posted at VAF forum. Please let me know how to improve the writing quality btw, even if all you say is that I suck ]

I partially convinced a poor young girl that I was a 50yr old gypsy... it was a great conversation, the best set I've ever opened on a stranger...

I'm NEW to night game, btw. Tonight was my first. Will it by my favorite also?

The two girls kept giving each other hell when they disagreed with me, or said something dumb. I couldn't believe it. I'd like to thank FireWire, and POF dating for what success I had- T, for the kick in the ass; POF for the experience running sets...

What am I doing?!

My real life friends aren't reliable to sarge with. They do nothing but cancel. Can't rely on them, you know the story.

I met some guys online, and we went sarging. I would have went alone if I had to. (Oneitis is pushing me to improve fast!)

This is an important step!

How Did it Go?

7 sets man, SE7EN! 3 went very well too! The last was on the train ride home, I was so comfortable talking to people by then I just opened a 2 set on the way home, and made one girl think I was 50 and a gypsy...

she was dumb as a rock, but adorable! Really adorable man!

The main thing was the first set.

I couldn't open any sets on the way there, too much AA. And my first set, opened without thought, blew me out. But doing it almost killed my AA entirely. I looked forward to opening sets after that. It was so satisfying. The whole not-thinking technique is really key. The 3 second rule- fuck that, spot and go, don't give yourself time to buy out! It was easier than digging out bus tickets after that, gaming is awesome, easy, and fun. FUN, MAN!

My main issue is the noise in clubs, though I've devised a strategy for if I ever get over that: I will dance. And I'll love it. And between great songs, I'll go sarge. And then I'll dance. And then I'll sarge. Repeat, as needed. I really enjoy dancing, but it's a personal thing for me, I don't really like to game while I'm dancing. So I alternate. I think as long as I don't suck too much, it'll work.

Noticed big time how social value is apparent in a club too- I need girls around to loiter with, if I'm by myself or with another guy it lowers my value... as does waiting to approach- HOVERING!

All in all, great night. I look forward to the same next weekend.

Appendix:

openers: Porn star mustache, and Pay for First Dates (originals- steal at your pleasure)

1- Hey, are porn star mustaches still cool? [blah blah, pornstar mustaches.] you know, the Burt Russel? the Ron Jeremy? I saw the most badass dude down the street there rocking a ron Jeremy, he looked like the MAN... only from the 70s, or 80s. I was arguing with my friend whether you can pull one off these days. I think they're freaking amazing, I'm so tempted to grow one... [chat a bit, stack forward, they'll either laugh and love you, or frown and raise an eyebrow, the former being preferable, but don't interpret the frown as being blown out... yet. STACK FORWARD.]

2-Hey I need an opinion on something. How do you guys feel about guys paying for first dates? [blah blah, she's a girl, she may say she'd love it] Okay, what about girls paying for first dates? [blah blah] What does it mean when she pays though? is she trying to impress you? I was on this date earlier tonight, and she like snatched it up and ran off with a mischievous grin to go pay for it before I could decide one way or the other. Was she trying to impress me? [leads into good girl, bad girl based on their answers, and other transitions/stories]

alright, listen up: my improvement plan for everything I'm good at.

This includes:

Tetris- I'd bet I'm the best tetris player on this forum by far
Tennis
First Person Shooters- L4d, TF2, Half Life, blah blah
Studying for school
Jiu Jitsu
blah blah

...my improvement plan, and how it works is this: play play play, and as you get to a trouble spot, you think it out. Playing an infinite number of matches will NOT improve you. You need to figure out what's going on, what approaches work, what ones don't.

I don't feel comfortable going out again until I cover these issues.

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So, from this night, which ones have come up that I feel I need answers for:

1) Blown out by girl asking "what am I doing there?"
2) Blown out for not having response to the Mustache opener if she says "No."
3) Not knowing how to hook friend and consequently bailing from set in a panic.
4) Bailing on a 2 set and not reapproaching because I wasn't hooking enough- dancing monkey effect.
5) The noise was so extreme I couldn't game verbally.
6) They left the train in a hurry cause it was their stop- I couldn't # close.
7) Distaste from running routines and being 'in character.' Fear of meeting same girls when not in-state, and being revealed as a losa'!

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If this was jiu jitsu, I'd have some sort of answer for each by now. That's how I improve so quickly. I would put all the rest of my game/grappling on hold to get through those points, and ask advice along the way. And if I couldn't figure out how to beat those trick spots, I'd find out how to avoid them, or what steps I need to take to get there. Ex, be more flexible is a big one for jiu jitsu atm.

This won't stop me from gaming tomorrow night at the concert, but as Sergio/Arman says: Use the things that fuck up your game to your advantage. If it's too loud, I'll mime. If they're rude, I'll plow. If they're ugly, I'll avoid! If it's embarrassing, I'll thrive off it for being so 'fearless.'
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Here's my boring point-by-point analysis/answer key

1- A) "1 sec..." B) "She doesn't get out much, does she?" C) "I'm from Heaven," *wink,* talk to men/ignore her D) Answer honestly: "I'm trying to meet new people, and get over my fear of talking to strangers. You're behaving very strangely, do you act like this at home?" E) "I'm here to seduce you and add you to my harem in Saudi Arabia." ignore her, talk to her friends. Remember that picking up girls has nothing to do with my identity. It's just a game, and here goes nothing.

2- "I think... you'd look better with one than s/he would. Better jawline for it." B) "I bet you'd answer differently if Burt Reynolds guy was... right... behind you." Stack forward.

3- Obviously... involve her friend. Consider ignoring target on open, talking only to obstacles at first. Neg target.

4- Happens on MSN a lot. If locked in, answer is to go quiet. Get locked in, and go quiet. Won't work in MSN. Will it work in a bar? Test.

5- A) dance/non-verbal game. B) Go somewhere quieter!

6- Simple. Get more info, early. Predict time frame as you open.

7- CONGRUENCE! Do a few approaches every night with no routines! SCARY SHIT! NOT FOR WARMUPS!